Jesus left no room for torture when he said "Love your enemies." You can't argue with that. I'd rather lose a war then make a policy of torture. After all, what good is it to gain the world if you forfeit your soul?
So Bing you are willing potentially to risk the lives of many, because you don't want to preform a form of "torture" that is used on our own soldiers in training. On the other hand I don't really believe everything is fair in love and war. Many terrible things have happened in war that should never of happened such as the abu ghraib situation. Which was totally unjustified and very criminal. But waterboarding give me a break. First off these guys are not even protected by the Geneva Convention, that said I don't think we should take advantage of that, but waterboarding is a "necessary evil" if you ask me.
First of all, I agree that all is not fair in love nor war. Secondly, its obviously a classic moral question as to what you would do in the situation where lives were at risk, etc. Again, I don't think its acceptable to waterboard or torture someone, because waterboarding is clearly torture, regardless of whether or not U.S. soldiers are subject to it. I don't think Jesus is OK with necessary evils. Jesus didn't say "Love your enemies, unless you need to extract information from them."
geeze, its just a saying guys. and while you're reading this you might as well check out this t-shirt: http://www.crazydogtshirts.com/servlet/Detail?no=1403 and also, I agree that this is a classic moral question, but I have to interject that it is still possible to love people even when causing them pain. We are called to turn the other cheek as Christians, but is it our duty to force this on those not present? It is my decision whether or not I turn my cheek, but if I have it in my power to protect everyone else's cheeks by torturing one bad guy, I know what I'm doing. However, I do believe that there needs to be substantial evidence that this person is withholding information. I do not believe in reckless torture.I also do not believe in torture that may cause irreparable damage. But I believe that these acts are carried out (or are supposed to be) out of love for our own, rather than hatred of the enemy. I wish that I could say that I am irrevocably correct on this issue, but obviously there is always moral debate to be had.
That's really interesting...All is fair in love and war, and terrorists won't like us any better for patty-caking with them.
ReplyDeleteJesus left no room for torture when he said "Love your enemies." You can't argue with that. I'd rather lose a war then make a policy of torture. After all, what good is it to gain the world if you forfeit your soul?
ReplyDeleteSo Bing you are willing potentially to risk the lives of many, because you don't want to preform a form of "torture" that is used on our own soldiers in training. On the other hand I don't really believe everything is fair in love and war. Many terrible things have happened in war that should never of happened such as the abu ghraib situation. Which was totally unjustified and very criminal. But waterboarding give me a break. First off these guys are not even protected by the Geneva Convention, that said I don't think we should take advantage of that, but waterboarding is a "necessary evil" if you ask me.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, I agree that all is not fair in love nor war. Secondly, its obviously a classic moral question as to what you would do in the situation where lives were at risk, etc. Again, I don't think its acceptable to waterboard or torture someone, because waterboarding is clearly torture, regardless of whether or not U.S. soldiers are subject to it. I don't think Jesus is OK with necessary evils. Jesus didn't say "Love your enemies, unless you need to extract information from them."
ReplyDeletegeeze, its just a saying guys. and while you're reading this you might as well check out this t-shirt:
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and also, I agree that this is a classic moral question, but I have to interject that it is still possible to love people even when causing them pain. We are called to turn the other cheek as Christians, but is it our duty to force this on those not present? It is my decision whether or not I turn my cheek, but if I have it in my power to protect everyone else's cheeks by torturing one bad guy, I know what I'm doing. However, I do believe that there needs to be substantial evidence that this person is withholding information. I do not believe in reckless torture.I also do not believe in torture that may cause irreparable damage. But I believe that these acts are carried out (or are supposed to be) out of love for our own, rather than hatred of the enemy. I wish that I could say that I am irrevocably correct on this issue, but obviously there is always moral debate to be had.
Valid points.
ReplyDeleteHaha, view points, easily displayed, rarely changed.
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